http://silethismillennium.blogspot.com/2009/03/youtube-broadcast-yourself.html
Şarpele ofit doar ca cel descoperit în cetatea Tomis:
cu cap de miel şi numai propriu funcţiei pe care o îndeplinea
în cultul ofiţilor.
Statuetă a şarpelui Glykon
din secolul al II-lea,
descoperită pe
teritoriul
oraşului Constanţa şi expusă la
Muzeul de istorie nationala
si arheologie Constanta
Wikipedia®
The Glikon snake of Black Sea - CONSTANTZA
"(...)Şarpele ofit", a explicat muzeograful Cecilia Paşca.
Această concluzie se datorează faptului că Şarpele Glykon putea fi reprezentat oricum, în timp ce a Şarpele ofit doar ca cel descoperit în cetatea Tomis:
cu cap de miel şi numai propriu funcţiei pe care o îndeplinea
în cultul ofiţilor. Indiferent de acest lucru, şarpele tomitan rămîne un unicat în iconografia votivă a epocii. De studiul reprezentărilor sculpturale ale divinităţilor s-a ocupat cercetătorul Zaharia Covacef.
""[ TELEGRAF]
http://listverse.com/religion/10-christ-like-figures-who-pre-date-jesus/
Author: Matt Howard
Comment:
"If you wish to, check Puijila darwini, a terrestial ancestor of the aquatic seal found at the Haughton crater in the high Artic in 2007, a report may be found in the British journal Nature. It had long legs with webbed feet and estimated at 20-25 million yrs old!!
The crater on Devon island was created by a meteor 39 million yrs ago and and this ancestor lived at a time when the Artic was temperate. A most effective evidence of evolution, it should also be pointed out that this was a living fossil, ie. one which existed on land while its consanguinous kin had already evolved to the aquatic species we see today. It had a dog like snout and smaller eyes which grew larger to cope with its new environment, under water!!
I could give so many more instances on the fossil record but seems futile to argue, so much evidence for our belief in science that you blissfully ignore!!"
Stizzy won't believe that because he dismisses radio-metric dating out of hand, simply because one or two improperly controled and badly executed tests showed anomalies.
I think he fails to see that purpose in terms of design is highly subjective. Evolution has a 'purpose' that renders subjectivity null and void because the purpose is derived from natural processes i.e. we call reproduction a purpose in a predictive sense because we can see that every single animal on Earth reproduces. If it fails to reproduce due to lack of fitness, it dies out and becomes extinct.
Design on the other hand has a purpose which needs to be proven. It's no good relying on the Bible to establish purpose, because the Bible hasn't been shown to be an objective source of truth. This renders purpose in Stizzy's terms useless. Someone with the Koran, or a Scientologist, or a Zoroastrian, or a Taoist, or a Buddhist, or a Hindu, or a Sikh or anyone with one of the thousands of religious texts out there could interpret purpose in nature in their own subjective way. If we are going to argue that purpose is a falsifiable tool in terms of a designer, we first have to establish an objective meaning of 'purpose', as evolution clearly does from objective observation and study of natural processes.
Until Stizzy can do this with the Bible, and establish an objective purpose, his arguments hold no weight.
See all comments on this post here:
http://listverse.com/religion/10-christ-like-figures-who-pre-date-jesus/#comments
O reprezentare unică a Şarpelui Glykon, expusă la Muzeul de Istorie
Un loc aparte între piesele care compun acest depozit de sculpturi îl ocupă statuia care ilustrează Şarpele Glykon, piesă care poate fi admirată şi în Sala Tezaur de la parterul instituţiei muzeale. Cultul Şarpelui Glykon, care a ajuns în lumea romană tocmai din Asia Mică, a cunoscut o amploare deosebită datorită noutăţii pe care o aducea. Iconografia acestui zeu este destul de variată, neschimbat rămînînd corpul de şarpe al divinităţii. Capul şarpelui este reprezentat fie antropomorf, aşa cum l-a gîndit creatorul său, fie tot de şarpe, dar şi de reptilă cu plete sau alt animal. Statuia descoperită la Constanţa, care datează în secolul al II-lea d.H., constituie o reprezentare unică în lume, atît ca manieră artistică, cît şi ca iconografică, fapt ce atestă existenţa la Tomis, mai mult decît în altă parte, a cultului acestei divinităţi. "Descoperirea tomitană a suscitat un viu interes, datorită aspectului insolit al monumentului. Pînă în prezent, ipoteza identificării şarpelui tomitan cu Glykon a fost acceptată de cea mai mare parte a cercetărilor. Totuşi, unul dintre ultimele studii care s-au făcut asupra monumentului tomitan îl consideră a fi o reprezentare a <Şarpelui ofit>", a explicat muzeograful Cecilia Paşca. Această concluzie se datorează faptului că Şarpele Glykon putea fi reprezentat oricum, în timp ce Şarpele ofit doar ca cel descoperit în cetatea Tomis:
cu cap de miel şi numai propriu funcţiei pe care o îndeplinea
în cultul ofiţilor. Indiferent de acest lucru, şarpele tomitan rămîne un unicat în iconografia votivă a epocii. De studiul reprezentărilor sculpturale ale divinităţilor s-a ocupat cercetătorul Zaharia Covacef.
- moi
de la tot io (14:28:21 23 Ianuarie 2007)Cel care a fondat cultul Sarpelui Glykon se numea Alexandros din Abuneteithos, stiai
10 Christ-like Figures Who Pre-Date Jesus
Published on April 13, 2009 by rushfan - 817 Comments
I recently watched the documentary Zeitgeist (Part 1) as well as Bill Maher’s movie Religulous. Both made mention of claims often made that there are many stories that predate Jesus but have striking parallels. I decided to follow up on these claims and see what kind of information was out there to substantiate these assertions.
I found several websites run by Christians who obviously disputed all claims of any parallels to the life of Jesus. I also found several interesting books on the subject, such as The World’s Sixteen Crucified Saviors: Christianity Before Christ by Kersey Graves, and The Christ Conspiracy, and Suns of God: Krishna, Buddha and Christ Unveiled by Acharya S.
As a non-christian, I am approaching this topic purely as an interested observer. I am assuming half of the people who read this will automatically say the claims are false and the other half will say they are true. The truth I found is that it is difficult to know for sure.
Here are ten of the figures often sited:
Both went to their temples at the age of twelve, where they are said to have astonished all with their wisdom. Both supposedly fasted in solitude for a long time: Buddha for forty–seven days and Jesus for forty. Both wandered to a fig tree at the conclusion of their fasts. Both were about the same age when they began their public ministry:
“When he [Buddha] went again to the garden he saw a monk who was calm, tranquil, self–possessed, serene, and dignified. The prince, determined to become such a monk, was led to make the great renunciation. At the time he was twenty–nine years of age… “Jesus, when he began his ministry, was about thirty years of age.” (Luke 3:23). Both were tempted by the “devil” at the beginning of their ministry: To Buddha, he said: “Go not forth to adopt a religious life but return to your kingdom, and in seven days you shall become emperor of the world, riding over the four continents.” To Jesus, he said: “All these [kingdoms of the world] I will give you, if you fall down and worship me” (Matthew 4:9). Buddha answered the “devil”: “Get you away from me.”
Jesus responded: “…begone, Satan!” (Matthew 4:10). Both strove to establish a kingdom of heaven on earth. According to the Somadeva (a Buddhist holy book), a Buddhist ascetic’s eye once offended him, so he plucked it out and cast it away. Jesus said: “If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out, and throw it away;.” (Matthew 5:29).
According to Bhagavata Purana some believe that Krishna was born without a sexual union, by “mental transmission” from the mind of Vasudeva into the womb of Devaki, his mother. Christ and Krishna were called both God and the Son of God. Both were sent from heaven to earth in the form of a man. Both were called Savior, and the second person of the Trinity. Krishna’s adoptive human father was also a carpenter. A spirit or ghost was their actual father. Krishna and Jesus were of royal descent. Both were visited at birth by wise men and shepherds, guided by a star. Angels in both cases issued a warning that the local dictator planned to kill the baby and had issued a decree for his assassination. The parents fled. Mary and Joseph stayed in Muturea; Krishna’s parents stayed in Mathura. Both Christ and Krishna withdrew to the wilderness as adults, and fasted. Both were identified as “the seed of the woman bruising the serpent’s head.” Jesus was called “the lion of the tribe of Judah.” Krishna was called “the lion of the tribe of Saki.” Both claimed: “I am the Resurrection.” Both were “without sin.” Both were god-men: being considered both human and divine. Both performed many miracles, including the healing of disease. One of the first miracles that both performed was to make a leper whole. Each cured “all manner of diseases.” Both cast out indwelling demons, and raised the dead. Both selected disciples to spread his teachings. Both were meek, and merciful. Both were criticized for associating with sinners. Both celebrated a last supper. Both forgave his enemies. Both were crucified and both were resurrected.
Homeric tales about Odysseus emphasize his suffering life, just as in Mark Jesus said that he, too, would suffer greatly. Odysseus is a carpenter like Jesus, and he wants to return his home just as Jesus wants to be welcomed in his native home and later to God’s home in Jerusalem. Odysseus is plagued with unfaithful and dim-witted companions who display tragic flaws. They stupidly open a magic bag of wind while Odysseus sleeps and release terrible tempests which prevent their return home. These sailors are comparable to Jesus’ disciples, who disbelieve Jesus, ask foolish questions, and show general ignorance about everything. It’s amazing that either Odysseus or Jesus ever manage to accomplish anything, given the companions they have, but this simply demonstrates the power and ability of the one true leader who has a divine mandate to lead the people out of darkness and into a brighter future.
Romulus is born of a vestal virgin, which was a priestess of the hearth god Vesta sworn to celibacy. His mother claims that the divine impregnated her, yet this is not believed by the King. Romulus and his twin brother, Remus, are tossed in the river and left for dead. (A “slaughter of the innocents” tale which parallels that of Matthew 2:13-16). Romulus is hailed as the son of god. He is “snatched away to heaven” by a whirlwind (It is assumed that the gods took him), and he makes post mortem appearances. In his work Numa Pompilius, Plutarch records that there was a darkness covering the earth before his death (Just as there was during Jesus’ death according to Mark 15:33). He also states that Romulus is to be know afterwards as ‘Quirinus’; A god which belonged to the Archiac Triad (a “triple deity” similar to the concept of the Trinity).
Dionysus was born of a virgin on December 25 and, as the Holy Child, was placed in a manger. He was a traveling teacher who performed miracles. He “rode in a triumphal procession on an ass.” He was a sacred king killed and eaten in an eucharistic ritual for fecundity and purification. Dionysus rose from the dead on March 25. He was the God of the Vine, and turned water into wine. He was called “King of Kings” and “God of Gods.” He was considered the “Only Begotten Son,” Savior,” “Redeemer,” “Sin Bearer,” Anointed One,” and the “Alpha and Omega.” He was identified with the Ram or Lamb. His sacrificial title of “Dendrites” or “Young Man of the Tree” intimates he was hung on a tree or crucified.
Heracles is the Son of a god (Zeus). It is recorded that Zeus is both the father and great-great- great grandfather of Heracles, just as Jesus is essentially his own grandpa, being both “The root and offspring of David” (Revelation 22:16) as he is part of the triune God which is the father of Adam and eventually of Jesus. Both are doubly related to the Supreme God.
Diodorus writes that,”For as regards the magnitude of the deeds which he accomplished it is generally agreed that Heracles has been handed down as one who surpassed all men of whom memory from the beginning of time has brought down an account; consequently it is a difficult attainment to report each one of his deeds in a worthy manner and to present a record which shall be on a level with labours so great, the magnitude of which won for him the prize of immortality.”
Jesus is also said to have done a very large number of good works. John 21:25 says that: “Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.”
Hera tries to kill Heracles as an infant by sending two serpents after him, yet Heracles survives by strangling them. This parallels Herod’s slaughter of the innocents in an attempt to kill Jesus (Matthew 2:13-16).
Heracles makes a descent into Hades and returns from it with Theseus and Peirithoüs, just as Jesus descends into the “lower parts of the earth” or Hades (Ephesians 4:7-8); Though Jesus does not bring anyone up from it. Heracles’ body is not found and he is assumed to have been taken by the gods:”After this, when the companions of Iolaüs came to gather up the bones of Heracles and found not a single bone anywhere, they assumed that, in accordance with the words of the oracle, he had passed from among men into the company of the gods.”
In the middle of the 100s AD,
out along the south coast of the Black Sea,
Glycon was the son of the God Apollo,
who: came to Earth through a miraculous birth,
was the Earthly manifestation of divinity,
came to earth in fulfillment of divine prophecy,
gave his chief believer the power of prophecy,
gave believers the power to speak in tongues,
performed miracles, healed the sick, and raised the dead.
Zoroaster was born of a virgin and “immaculate conception by a ray of divine reason.” He was baptized in a river. In his youth he astounded wise men with his wisdom. He was tempted in the wilderness by the devil. He began his ministry at age 30. Zoroaster baptized with water, fire and “holy wind.” He cast out demons and restored the sight to a blind man. He taught about heaven and hell, and revealed mysteries, including resurrection, judgment, salvation and the apocalypse. He had a sacred cup or grail. He was slain. His religion had a eucharist. He was the “Word made flesh.” Zoroaster’s followers expected a “second coming” in the virgin-born Saoshynt or Savior, who is to come in 2341 AD and begin his ministry at age 30, ushering in a golden age.
Attis was born on December 25 of the Virgin Nana. He was considered the savior who was slain for the salvation of mankind. His body as bread was eaten by his worshippers. He was both the Divine Son and the Father. On “Black Friday,” he was crucified on a tree, from which his holy blood ran down to redeem the earth. He descended into the underworld. After three days, Attis was resurrected.
Born of a virgin, Isis. Only begotten son of the God Osiris. Birth heralded by the star Sirius, the morning star. Ancient Egyptians paraded a manger and child representing Horus through the streets at the time of the winter solstice (about DEC-21). In reality, he had no birth date; he was not a human. Death threat during infancy: Herut tried to have Horus murdered. Handling the threat: The God That tells Horus’ mother “Come, thou goddess Isis, hide thyself with thy child.” An angel tells Jesus’ father to: “Arise and take the young child and his mother and flee into Egypt.” Break in life history: No data between ages of 12 & 30. Age at baptism: 30. Subsequent fate of the baptiser: Beheaded. Walked on water, cast out demons, healed the sick, restored sight to the blind. Was crucifed, descended into Hell; resurrected after three days.
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Déjà vu :Miţa Biciclista sau Miţa Cotroceanca
Adaugat la 23.04.2009 08:16:25
Noi sîntem la fel de proaspeţi ca acum 100 de ani ,să mai spună cineva că nu sîntem europeni ,ieri în 1909 Miţa Biciclista vorbea pe franţuzeşte cu toată lumea pînă şi cu servitorii le spunea déjà vu de cîte ori se ivea prilejul azi spune doamna ministru ELENA biciclista ne spune pe englezeşte un alt soi de "already seen" :"Romania, simply surprising" Am remarcat prin această frază a englezului Smiles (alo nu dansatorul de la PRO-TV): "N-a mai fost pana acum asa o dorinta arzatoare de imbogatire. Oamenii nu mai sunt satisfacuti de castigurile prin munca cinstita, ci doresc sa ajunga brusc bogati - prin specula, jocuri de noroc, furtisaguri sau inselaciune" PS. "O chema Maria Mihaescu, castigandu-si notorietatea prin faptul ca a fost prima femeie care s-a plimbat cu bicicleta pe Calea Victoriei, in Capitala. Totodata, despre Mita se zvonea ca era amanta regelui Ferdinand, acesta daruindu-i o casa langa Piata Amzei, care si astazi ii poarta numele. "Casa are doua corpuri. in cel dinspre strada, de unde se si vede Biserica Amzei, locuia Mita impreuna cu sotul ei, generalul Alexandru Dumitrescu" sursa : news.4.romania şi wiki
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'land of choice'
Este un concept modern si trebuie sa profitam de el. Trebuie sa intelegem ca Romania nu are doar litoral, iar dupa 31 august hotelierii sa isi inchida portile. Trebuie sa profitam de orice moment", a spus minsitrul Turismului, Elena Udrea
"Nu este brandul Romaniei. Este un imn care se va lansa pe 1 mai pe litoral, este o relaitate, nu e un slogan", a zis Elena Udrea . Dar el ar putea deveini pe litoralul românesc in zilele de 1 si 2 mai, la Mamaia si la Mangalia : "Romania, simply surprising", aspus ministrul turismului .
"A aparut o confuzie, cauzata de faptul ca, dupa concertul Bregovic, noi am proiectat pe ecrane acest text, atunci cand am anuntat evenimentele de 1 si 2 mai. Nu este vorba despre un slogan, este o fraza din imnul turistic", e clarificat purtatorul de cuvant al ministerului Turismului, Stefan Lungu.
"Aceasta formula de acum, cu 'land of choice', a fost doar o idee a noastra, a celor din minister, pentru promovarea de 1 mai. Nu a costat nimic", a mai spus Lungu.